Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. Hi. "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Hi Nicola. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. "Each case is reviewed periodically. Birth: 16 Jan 1878: There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. Also that they likely watched Muriel and knew her route. Bethell was thrilled to discover that on the back of the coat, a no-longer visible dried semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Bethell sent the coat toDr. Colin Dark, and over the course of three years (MUCH longer than depicted on television and in the movies) Bethell analyzed the material and was able to extract enough fragments of DNA tosuccessfully create a Y-STR profile from the semen stain. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. We know 100% that it is the killer's stain. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. I hope Margaret gets the answers she deserves sooner rather than later. And the truth will never be known. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. I appealed that decision and was then informed that as the information I requested was kept in paper format in various locations in South Wales then it would be too costly and time-consuming to check out so the request was denied. [18] The public can no longer access the Drinkwater files by Freedom of Information Act requests or in person at the archives office in Kew. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. He stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name. Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. Hi James. I informed D.C.I. We could see it [had been] in a police station, but as it closed, where did it go next? More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Muriels niece is in a dreadful state. Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. profiling cleared Hubert who stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name.). I have requested information regarding the cost of the re-investigation of Muriels murder since 2008. The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Photo added by Tracey. She was singing . It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head and shot twice while walking home. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. OnJune 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school inPenllergaer, Swansea. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the South Wales Polices Specialist Crime Review Unit announced to the press in May 2019: The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Arrested once again, Jones this time pleaded guilty to the charge of murder at aMonmouthcourt in November 1921. Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. Interesting insights! Why? This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. I am making a F.O.I. Her mother later went to the village to look for her when she did not return home; more than a dozen men from the area began a search. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. <p>The school bus dropped Muriel Drinkwater at her usual stop, leaving her to walk the last part of her journey home to the family farm in Penllergaer, West Wales. In a Welsh village during the summer of 1946, a 12-year-old girl is brutally murdered. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. South Wales Police some years ago announced that a potential suspect Hubert Hoyles had been cleared of Muriels death through DNA profiling. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. First, I was told that South Wales Police werent obliged to say. request regarding the unsolved murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater near Swansea in June 1946. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. They never recovered. Thanks again for sharing this. The detectives in the programme got a breakthrough when they were able to track down Muriel's relative Martin Phillips, who had been six at the time of the murder. 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The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. Thanks again and take care. D.S. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater ,[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. Neil. I could never hurt anyone or anything, but in a small, close-knit community, people talk and I knew that in the eyes of some people I was the murderer. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. 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Video, 00:01:18Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, One-minute World News. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Thanks again! He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. Although the profile was loaded into the UK National DNA Database, it failed to match any of the approximately five million DNA records held there. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts found a semen stain found on Muriel's coat. She was shot twice in the chest. Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Close. Just a few weeks short of her 13th birthday, Muriel had been beaten on the crown of her head with an object, raped and then shot twice in the . But the mystery doesn't end there and the team want to unlock the mystery behind a book belonging to Muriel that turned up in a charity shop decades after her death. 2023 The True Crime Files. sample from Harold Jones daughter. She was singing on the school bus with her friends, on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, when she was dropped on the side of the road near her family's farm on the outskirt of Swansea. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. This was no spur of the moment event. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer, "Secrecy over 1940 murder as DNA offers new leads", "The unsolved murder of a 12-year-old brutally abused and killed", "Serial Slaying of Pretty Women Has New Scotland Yard Confused", "Detectives link Muriel Drinkwater and Sheila Martin murders", "The chilling tale of a man who bludgeoned his relatives to death with a hammer and paid the ultimate price", "The unsolved murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater and the new suspect identified", "Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Muriel_Drinkwater&oldid=1138738141, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11. ", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. The comments below have not been moderated. Regards. Hi Neil. She was sexually assaulted and strangled and last seen with an American soldier. Have a great week! She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. The True Crime Files It blighted my life. For Hoyles, and no doubt numerous other people in Penllergaer,every dollar spent bringing Muriels killer one step closer to justice has been a dollar well spent. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Officers are now examining a semen stain on Muriel's coat to see if it can be linked to Jones. Advertisement. Enter your email address to receive our monthly newsletter and to be notified about new posts. with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. The police found the murder weapon in the undergrowth near where Muriels body had been discovered. taken from Jones one and only child, a daughter. And no idea and Japanese workers. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. Required fields are marked *. Her blue coat, underwear and school uniform had been wrapped in a paper bag and stored. I then appealed that decision and was shocked to be told that the information I requested had been eaten by vermin or had been damaged owing to a leaking roof. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. [8], Last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11, List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom, "Marwolaeth merch yn parhau'n ddirgelwch", "The Muriel Drinkwater case: can they crack the coldest murder case? Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. All the best with pursuing answers in this case, and please keep us updated. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. Given that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil of suspicion. Muriel Drinkwater. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946 Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little. Over 20,000 men were interviewed about the crime . Video, 00:01:20WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Victor said that the programme had made him suspicious as to whether Florences killer Harold Jones who had been released from a 20 year prison sentence in 1941 for the Abertillery murders was responsible for 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwaters death. As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . Well here is the TRUTH. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. "My grandparents changed completely. 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You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. Video, 00:00:42, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . It was supposed to have been abandoned in 1944 but I know there were GIs who married Swansea girls still around in 1946. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. "Given the sheer level of violence that he inflicted on his own relatives, I can't quite believe that this would be the first instance of his violence.". Her mother was in the kitchen and . And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. Evernote. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. "This was a terrible, terrible crime that someone has got away with for too long. My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. [12][13], For more than a decade, Welsh true crime author Neil Milkins theorised that notorious child murderer Harold Jones (19061971) was responsible for the murders of both Martin and Drinkwater. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. profiling. Why on earth would the police continue to stonewall after all these decades? So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. The identity of the man who murdered a schoolgirl in 1946 remains a mystery after DNA left on her'little red riding hood' coat failed to link to a notorious child killer. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. "Looking through the paper work, we could see the materials had left the crime scene, where it had gone, where it had been examined. Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. If you can contact [emailprotected] Id really appreciate it. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. ~ Christine. The D.N.A. 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If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was singing as she walked along the mile-long path to her home after getting off a school bus. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. Photo added by Graceti. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. 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